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Current topics

• Should the Daily Topic get a longer shelf life?

• Do we need an Upright Bass tag?

• What should be done with the Band tag?

• What should be done with the Girl/Guy With Guitar tags?

• Discussing the current state of help and technical documentation

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Ongoing topics

• Discuss definitions, merging, and deleting of these categories (tags) for music.

• Leave your feedback on obscure artists and pages recommended for deletion.

• Wanna make a craft like coffee mugs for WWR and have us sell 'em?

• Editing bios filled with hype. What is "hype"?

• Discuss song tags (the best way to use them, when lyrics, trivia, and comments are more appropriate, etc.)

Recent topics

• Use the Vocal Harmonies tag when harmonies are a feature.

• Bodhran tag was added.

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Daily Topic Just a little something to discuss as you get to know your collaborators. If you remember, put the most current entries ON TOP instead of at the bottom. No big deal, but it saves people having to scroll to see things they've already seen. --- Previous "Daily Topics"

This topic was suggested by put your name here who tagged put who you want to tag for tomorrow's question here or leave as is to let anyone answer it to create tomorrow's topic. (Previous day / Next day)

LISTENER NEWS This is a central location for recent listener updates. Updates made in the last 5 days are shown. Everyone has a "News" page of their own. All you have to do is update your news page and it will automatically show up here.

Seen Today

The following folks were seen wandering around the neighborhood sometime today:

1) Smileysmom2   2) Kazookid   3) EJ On Duty   4) NitroSavage884   5) Jimkloss   6) Scobey   7) Jezebel   8) Redwizz   9) Lilginks   10) Denali   11) 12-stringer   12) Robbie   13) Kimchifox   14) JohnA   15) Cub Driver   16) Kelli   17) Kodibear   18) Hoonah   19) ReWoven   20) Edesombr   21) 65strat   22) Gearhead   23) Berfer Twertwee   24) Dcole   25) Countrydave   26) Kilted john   27) Claesyngve   28) AlaskaMountainMan   29) Ms.Divvie   30) Vince   31) Migsvoice2bheard   32) Firewalk   33) BlueRidge   34) DogNut   35) Maggie council   36) Big Tom   37) Millbilly   38) DBB  

New neighbors

Here is a list of new online neighbors and collaborators who've signed up in the last week. One of the things that is most helpful is welcoming them into the community. Clicking on the "Talk" page link and leaving a message helps get over the initial "size shock" of this site. Maybe you can offer to help them write their user page? Or explain how to upload photos? Whatever you do is appreciated and serves as the glue between all of us.

#	Username	Image	Nickname	Real name	Location	Edits	Signed up	Talk page
1	Berfer Twertwee			Dave	Hannibal Missouri USA	1	Friday, August 29th	Talk
2	Vince		vince			2	Friday, August 29th	Talk
3	Migsvoice2bheard	Image:Migsvoice2bheard.jpg	miguelement	miguelement		0	Thursday, August 28th	Talk
4	KT			KT Graham	Vallejo CA USA	1	Tuesday, August 26th	Talk
5	Missyanne			Missy	Hixson TN USA	1	Monday, August 25th	Talk
6	Mitteldorf	Image:Mitteldorf.jpg		josh mitteldorf		1	Sunday, August 24th	Talk
7	Smithcraft		Sewa Yoleme	Craig Smith	Palm Bay FL USA	1	Sunday, August 24th	Talk
8	James Austin			James Austin		0	Saturday, August 23rd	Talk
9	AndrewK	Image:AndrewK.jpg		Andrew Kinsella		0	Saturday, August 23rd	Talk

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      507 West High St
      Mt.Vernon, OH 

WWR Photos today

If any photos have been taken at WWR today, they will be shown below.

COMMUNITY NEWS News and communications by and for the community. Feel free to add but please stay focused on the "business" of Whole Wheat Radio, the community and independent music. Post new items at the top of the page ... and if everyone could help remove outdated items at the bottom it would be a big help.

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A few comments about iTunes. Not all music on iTunes is DRM protected, there's iTunes Plus music without DRM. I regularly buy songs there, because, for one reason, I can buy there without a credit card, but also because of DRM free songs. I don't want to advertise for commercial organizations but Apple's Steve Jobs took action personally to free at least a part of their music library from DRM, by negotiating with record companies. Also it's not so much Apple or the iTunes store who decides that music is with or without DRM, it's the artists and their record companies. Much of the music of alternative / independent artists on iTunes is DRM free. there are also ways to get around this copy protection, like burning it to a cd and rip it again. User:Patrick Patrick (talk/contribs)

Thanks for the good info! Jim (talk/contribs) 00:10, July 20, 2008 (AKDT)

iTunes links

You probably noticed some of these hanging around. Here's the deal:

• You click on the icon and you are taken to the iTunes store (Windows or Mac) where you can get a 30 second preview of the individual track and/or buy it for $0.99 - or you can buy the whole album.
• WWR is supposedly going to make 5% for any purchases you make clicked through our link. Just like CDBaby, if you click, then no matter what you buy at iTunes for the next 24(?) hours, we get a 5% kickback.
• Music you download from iTunes is crippled by "digital rights management" which is just a way to say you buy a copy and may or may not be able to play it on a bunch of devices. You probably know more about it all than I do since I don't have an iPod. Bottom line: if you like iTunes, go for it. Unlike CDBaby which I support 100%, you're on your own with Apple.
• In the left-hand menu, if you see one, it points to the current song being played. So no matter what page you're on or what you're doing, you can click it and whatever song was playing when the page loaded will be displayed in iTunes.
• Other places that you see one (songs coming up, songs just played, request shows, etc.) you can click it and it goes to that song on iTunes. Great way to get a 30 second snippet preview of songs before you request them! To hear the preview, just click on the song in iTunes.
• CDBaby does sell entire CDs as MP3s without DRM (great description at this link BTW. We don't get a cut, but that's okay with me. CDBaby has always been a working inspiration to me as how a commercial independent music website can be run.

Let me know on my talk page if you have comments or opinions. Jim (talk/contribs) 22:56, July 17, 2008 (AKDT)

Items tabled for the short term but still viable for the long-term

Adopt-a-user proposal

Are you interested in helping another user learn the ropes of WWR's wiki? Or perhaps you'd like to learn more about editing on the WWR wiki? Visit the Adopt-a-user page. We're assessing if there is enough interest in a mentoring program. sparx (talk) 20:21, May 9, 2008 (AKDT)

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Hi Mr. Monkey,

Sometimes the I-Tunes link is available and sometimes not. I appreciate the ability to buy one song, but, there have been several times when I could not find the link? Thank you! Sharpston (talk/contribs) 09:51, July 28, 2008 (AKDT)

Hi, Sharpston. As you probably know, Jim is on vacation for the next few weeks. My best guess is that not all songs are available on iTunes and a link only displays for songs that are available. If you find a case where that isn't true, please provide the details for future troubleshooting. Thanks. Kelli (talk/contribs) 09:58, July 28, 2008 (AKDT)

Thank you, Kelli for the info - It probably was that all the tunes were not available on I-Tunes. Sorry to wait so long to thank you. Sharpston (talk/contribs) 14:43, August 5, 2008 (AKDT)

Hi, Mr. Monkey/Mr. Monkey substitute, I'm kinda new here, although I discovered WWR awhile back when I realized my music was being played here. I've got a new CD I sent in a few weeks back, and am trying to figure out how to set up an artist page. I'm sorry that I'm a little technodyslexic and not used to the wiki way yet! Thanks for any pointers you can give me. maggie (talk/contribs) 05:57, August 20, 2008 (AKDT)

Welcome, Maggie! Jim will put your CD in the library when he gets back from vacation (and has time). An artist page will be created at that time which you will be able to edit if you like. I hope that helps. Kelli (talk/contribs) 06:27, August 20, 2008 (AKDT)